Anonymous wrote
Hi
I currently work in the Transactions advisory/services arm of one of the Big 4, having previously been Big 4 ACA qualified with good academics supporting these. I am now not at all keen to pursue a career further into the M&A/IB side of things. I was wondering what realistic options would be open to me in Commerce & industry that would not let the financial analytical skills and acumen developed in Transaction Services go to waste?
A consultant at WH Marks Sattin replied
There are a number of avenues open to you within commerce & industry which would enable you to draw upon the more analytical skills developed post-qualifying. There are a few in-house corporate finance roles within large FTSE businesses but these are often very rare and highly competitive. Financial Analyst roles are more likely to become available to you but are probably the most sought after roles we deal with. These roles often work in commercial finance teams separate of core finance involving a large amount of financial modelling and the building of business cases. If you would like to hear what current opportunities may be open to you please send your CV to richard.swain@whmarkssattin.com.
Best of luck
WH Marks Sattin
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Tuesday, 14 July 2009
Monday, 13 July 2009
Should I turn down a job offer or wait to interview for another role?
Anonymous wrote:
Hi,
I have recently been offered an ACA training contract at a top 50 accountancy firm, and will be working on not-for-profit audit where this firm is pretty specialist and have clients ranging from large, well-known, international aid agencies down to smaller religious orders. At the same time I also have a final interview for an ACA trainee role at a top 5 accountancy firm based regionally (unlike the previous role which is based in London).
My problem is that I have decide whether or not to take the first role before I have the opportunity to go to the latter final interview. First of all do you think its sensible in this current economic climate to turn down the first role for the interview at the latter role, even though it is possible I may not get the job, and I would be quite happy training at the first firm. My only fear in taking the first role is for the longevity of my CV; or is this thought ridiculous. And secondly given that I get 1st time passes in my ACA, and with my current academics of having a 2:1 undergraduate masters of science in a physical science subject from a top 5 UK university, A-levels of 320 UCAS points, and non-financial work experience at a FTSE 100 company; would my work experience in not-for-profit audit hinder one of my possible aspirations of moving into a commercial/industry role as a business analyst/financial controller after qualification. I was thinking specifically on the latter note, that a move to the big 4 after qualification might help with these objectives, are upwards moves like this feasible with work experience from the first role.
Many Thanks
A consultant at WH Marks Sattin replied:
I think in the current market it is not advisable to turn jobs down. If at all possible try and drag out the process a little bit with the first firm and inform the Big 4 company about your situation and see if they can bring the meeting forward. Until the contract is signed you can still change your mind.
Normally it is quite easy as long as you have first time passes to move from a smaller firm to a Big 4 environment or even a top 7 firm will still give you access to the larger firms. At the moment it is a bit tough but in three years time these moves should be easy to do again.
All the best regardless of which decision you make
WH Marks Sattin
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Hi,
I have recently been offered an ACA training contract at a top 50 accountancy firm, and will be working on not-for-profit audit where this firm is pretty specialist and have clients ranging from large, well-known, international aid agencies down to smaller religious orders. At the same time I also have a final interview for an ACA trainee role at a top 5 accountancy firm based regionally (unlike the previous role which is based in London).
My problem is that I have decide whether or not to take the first role before I have the opportunity to go to the latter final interview. First of all do you think its sensible in this current economic climate to turn down the first role for the interview at the latter role, even though it is possible I may not get the job, and I would be quite happy training at the first firm. My only fear in taking the first role is for the longevity of my CV; or is this thought ridiculous. And secondly given that I get 1st time passes in my ACA, and with my current academics of having a 2:1 undergraduate masters of science in a physical science subject from a top 5 UK university, A-levels of 320 UCAS points, and non-financial work experience at a FTSE 100 company; would my work experience in not-for-profit audit hinder one of my possible aspirations of moving into a commercial/industry role as a business analyst/financial controller after qualification. I was thinking specifically on the latter note, that a move to the big 4 after qualification might help with these objectives, are upwards moves like this feasible with work experience from the first role.
Many Thanks
A consultant at WH Marks Sattin replied:
I think in the current market it is not advisable to turn jobs down. If at all possible try and drag out the process a little bit with the first firm and inform the Big 4 company about your situation and see if they can bring the meeting forward. Until the contract is signed you can still change your mind.
Normally it is quite easy as long as you have first time passes to move from a smaller firm to a Big 4 environment or even a top 7 firm will still give you access to the larger firms. At the moment it is a bit tough but in three years time these moves should be easy to do again.
All the best regardless of which decision you make
WH Marks Sattin
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Wednesday, 1 July 2009
Part qualified to Big 4
Anonymous wrote:
Hi Job Doctor,
I'm currently a part qualified ACA, with the view of qualifying by the end of 2009. Unfortunately, I do not have first time passes, with 2 retakes in professional stage and obtained a 2:2 at university.
I'm training with a small local 6 partner firm, and would like to move on to one of the Big 4 (Advisory - Corporate Finance/Forensic/Restructuring) in London once I qualify. What are my chances of potentially getting a job with them, especially with the current economic climate?
Would my experience in a small firm hinder my chances, would I increase my chances if I opt for other areas i.e. Audit instead?
Thank you!
An Associate Director at WH Marks Sattin replied:
In a word this will be a tough. The main reasons is that, in the current climate, the Big 4 are making redundancies rather than hiring at your level . Their grad schemes are still firing but at the newly qualified level the number of vacancies are down.
You mentioned that you would like to get into corporate recovery and Forensics however if you do not currently work in this area this will be really hard to get into as, while firms are recruiting in this area, they are looking for people with this experience, exceptional academics or looking to move people internally/from other top 4 firms.
There is good news though, when the economic climate improves the Big 4 will need to look outside the current parameters and start interviewing people from smaller practices. For this reason your logical next step will be to move up the food chain somewhat. After qualification you should look at some larger firms, 20 partners plus, to gain experience in dealing with bigger clients and different issues that will act as stepping stones towards your ultimate goal.
All the best
WH Marks Sattin
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Hi Job Doctor,
I'm currently a part qualified ACA, with the view of qualifying by the end of 2009. Unfortunately, I do not have first time passes, with 2 retakes in professional stage and obtained a 2:2 at university.
I'm training with a small local 6 partner firm, and would like to move on to one of the Big 4 (Advisory - Corporate Finance/Forensic/Restructuring) in London once I qualify. What are my chances of potentially getting a job with them, especially with the current economic climate?
Would my experience in a small firm hinder my chances, would I increase my chances if I opt for other areas i.e. Audit instead?
Thank you!
An Associate Director at WH Marks Sattin replied:
In a word this will be a tough. The main reasons is that, in the current climate, the Big 4 are making redundancies rather than hiring at your level . Their grad schemes are still firing but at the newly qualified level the number of vacancies are down.
You mentioned that you would like to get into corporate recovery and Forensics however if you do not currently work in this area this will be really hard to get into as, while firms are recruiting in this area, they are looking for people with this experience, exceptional academics or looking to move people internally/from other top 4 firms.
There is good news though, when the economic climate improves the Big 4 will need to look outside the current parameters and start interviewing people from smaller practices. For this reason your logical next step will be to move up the food chain somewhat. After qualification you should look at some larger firms, 20 partners plus, to gain experience in dealing with bigger clients and different issues that will act as stepping stones towards your ultimate goal.
All the best
WH Marks Sattin
Click for our latest practice jobs
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